ASP.NET MVC and the Future of Model View Presenter : Interview with Jeffery Palermo

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This show features an interview with Software Management Consultant and CTO of Headspring Systems, Jeffrey Palermo. Jeffery takes us through the current state of the ASP.NET MVC framework and explains how to construct an MVC website and delves into some of the relevent controls that make up the framework.

What is the ASP.NET MVC Framework?

The ASP.NET MVC Framework is a new effort from the ASP.NET team to adjust the architecture of web applications to more closely resemble what you find in MonoRail or even Ruby on Rails. The logical portions of a page are separated down natural lines of differentiation. Code responsible for "modeling" your domain is separated from code that handles interaction among busines objects which is still separate from code that presents data to the user. For more information about the Model-View-Control ler design pattern (MVC) please refer to the following resources:

MVP in light of the ASP.NET MVC Framework

The rise in interest in the ASP.NET MVC Framework has many people wondering where the Model-View-Pre senter (MVP) pattern fits in to the mix. We have spent a lot of time on the Polymorphic Podcast thinking about MVP in not just one, but two podcasts and a series of 5 how-to screen casts.

Some interesting ideas are floating about on some podcasts and blogs lately regarding the purpose of ASP.NET MVC and the value of MVP. Further, I recently received this email from listener Buddy Stein trying to reconcile the ASP.NET MVC and MVP patterns:


You've made a convert of me to the MVP pattern, but after listening to your interview with Scott Hanselman, I couldn't help but think he's "drinking the Microsoft Kool-aid".

If the MS MVC framework only works with, then why bother? Just stick with code-behind and save the trouble.

Isn't the whole point of the extra MVP effort; that you can re-use your code for winforms and If your coding to the lowest common demoninator by coding for both platforms as Scott states. Then please enlightenment me what we can't do in ASP.NET or Winforms because were using the MVP pattern.

Craig, If I'm wrong, tell me, but I'm a corporate developer and I'm convinced that the combination of MVP and TDD are the most professional approach to .NET programming today.

Buddy Stein

In response to Buddy's points, I suggest we consider the following:

What this all boils down to is that in the end you need to use the right tool for the right job... something I have advocated for a long time.

A Seriously Special Music Episode

As if the "Lambada" goof wasn't enough, this show I even more music for you! This show is packaged (at no extra cost) with "Seriously" from Greenleaf Avenue. Greenleaf's lead guitar player is one of my good friends Sol Rodriguez. Sol and his boys have entered a battle-of-the-bands type contest through a Los Angeles radio station.

If you like rock music I would love if you could take a minute and vote for "Seriously" from Greenleaf Avenue. You have heard some of Greenleaf's music peppered thoughout different episodes of the Polymorphic Podcast as bumper music.

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Try before you buy? You can check out a video the band produced for the song below...

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